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Re: Evolution a romantic story

There are some people who think that the biblical record allows for an extra 1-2000 years in addition to the approximately 6,000 it seems to indicate. However, I do believe that God built the earth and all creation with "apparent age." That means, Adam was formed as an adult, not a squawking baby, and he looked like he was already (in modern terms) 20-30 years old. People lived much longer back then, (Adam died at over 900 years old) so in his time he probably had the apparent age of 100-200 years old. If you were to cut down a tree on the day it was created, you would see rings inside it. Rings are not merely a way of telling how old a tree is, they are also a structural, fundamental part of the tree. If God created a big tree, such as one of those oaks or other trees that are so old in Europe, it could easily have 1,000 or more rings in it when he created it. It is slightly possible that in a few placed on earth a few trees actually survived the Genesis flood. This could happen if they were on a high outcropping of land that was flooded for only a brief period of time during the flood. This is feasible, because during the flood there were some very massive geological upheavals, causing new mountains to arise where there were none before, and so on. Evidently the land masses were much flatter before the flood, easily explaining how the amount of water on the earth today could have flooded everything at some point in the flood.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so scared of the possibility of creation by God. They hate it, they fear it, it bends them all out of shape. Why is that? What threat does it pose to you? If, as you might say, it is a false idea, then why does it bother you so much? There are many false ideas out there, so why does this one bother you and other false ideas don't? I would like someone to calmly and rationally tell me why you hate and fear this idea so much.

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Re: Evolution a romantic story

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Hi Jim,

Of course! This also explains the existence of dinosaur fossils and that the "younger ones" are always found above the "older ones".


They are not always found in that order. In more instances than one, human remains have been found interspersed with dinosaur remains. One example is the Ashley Phosphate Beds near Charleston, South Carolina. Human remains have been found in many different strata. There have been at least one finding of human footprints made in the same mud as dinosaur footprints. There have been several human artifacts found embedded in lumps of coal.

The reason dinosaur fossils are USUALLY found in different strata than human fossils is most likely because their bodies were denser and they sank to the bottom more quickly, and were buried in an earlier layer of mud, a few hours or so before the next layers, including more humans. It is quite likely that a number of humans survived for a few hours or even days by hanging onto flotsam such as trees. if their bodies were buried near the top, they would have rotted rather than fossilizing. many mammal bodies have a tendency to bloat quickly after dying, meaning they could have floated and not been fossilized so much as dinosaurs.

Many possibilities. Just keep closing your mind to them. We can't see you if you close your eyes.

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Re: Evolution a romantic story

My bad-- did a little more research-- pines and spruce, not oaks-- and it so happens that they used radio-carbon, not tree rings, to find the age of this so-called oldest tree-- radio-carbon and other such dating techniques are a flawed concept because you never can tell if the material started with the amount in it that you think it did. Bristlecone pines with around 5000 rings are the oldest trees I know of.

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Re: Evolution a romantic story

To Jim:

I think, people are afraid, that, if the catholic church would regain its rightful place in the hearts of the people and the government, they would loose some of their freedom (to sin).

It is our duty to make them see the advantages of being cradled in the loving arms of a caring church watching over them day and night, using modern surveillance technics to protect them from all evil temptations and sinful doings.

In my opinion, one of the first things that has to be done, would be to establish a specially trained moral police force to spot and end sinful doings whenever and whereever it occurs and end it resolutely (but only with an appropriate amount of violence, of course)

Not only cameras and cell-phones, but children and neighbours too, are valuable sources of information about any aberrant behavings of people.

Adulterers and homosexuals could finally brought to justice and notorious offenders sent to special improvement camps to be corrected there with much attention and, if necessary, medical care.

Special brigades could spot and collect pornographic literature and books of false teachings and take it to the incinerators, where could finally do something useful - produce energy.

The scripture should not only be taught in science class, but also in all other subjects. Especially biology.

TV and radio stations too should spread god's word instead of lies and superficial entertainment.

Re: Evolution a romantic story

Wow-- that's quite a vision, Ric. Myself, I am not a Catholic, but a fundamental Baptist, so my views of the church are different from yours. I agree that people ought not to sin, but the Bible tells us that all people are sinners, and need salvation through Christ. I would not be in favor of any church or religious group becoming a government for the world-- but the Bible does point out that in the future, during the millennial reign of Christ, Jesus Christ Himself will reign on earth as supreme ruler, and I believe He will address those moral issues you speak of. I believe that a thorough reading of the Bible shows that He is the only one worthy to rule over people in matters of morality and virtue. But maybe that is what atheists, agnostics, and evolutionists are afraid of. What they need to realize is that right now we live in an age of grace-- this is the time to turn to God and accept Him and the salvation that Christ offers. In the future, the opportunity to do so may greatly diminish. Accept God at His word-- He created the earth, the stars, and everything else, even space and time itself, and the laws of nature. He loves you and wants to save you from your sin.

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