I had 3 that would not touch a deer, when I rabbit hunted deers came out they smell where they came out just look and went back to looking for rabbits, did this numerous of times, like a fool I sold them, now I'm trying to get back there, I cut down to 12 deer dogs now I want a pack of 4 to 5 rabbit dogs that want touch a deer. Its a guy in VA that give this type of guranttee I will let u know I'm getting 3 from him an 1 from NC, we will see what happen. U know u get what u pay for, a good rabbit dogs cost atleast 400 or better and maybe 500 for a top of line dog that want touch a deer.