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don what do you think your dogs are tring to do when you run them in a pen. you must turn your dogs out to pet and rub the fox. mine hate him and are tring to eat him. i would expect that comment from an 8 year old girl. marc here you typing again. you dont holler at the fox and make him stop you holler at the dogs to make them pull up and gain ground on the game. if outside hunters didnt they would never catch up with the game. unless you had dogs like some of these people on here that talk about catching deer on the outside buy them self which is BS. and if you can I WILL PAY TO SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!