randy you said what kind of man buys a dog on thurs and puts him in a hunt on sat.not a true houndsman.thats what you said.and thats what i was replying to.heck how many times do ya have to run a hound before y put them in a puppy hunt.ill bet theres alot thats took out of the breaking pen and put in hunts.ive not met david and im sure hes a good guy.but i know josh and i know hes not no idiot either.your the only one on here that seems to cant keep his temper in check.chill out and have some happy hunting.load up and come on down to baycity and well have a few cold ones and laugh bout all this.