My thoughts exactly

The North Carolina State is alittle over a month away. Since both skid row and big Eddie have both placed at manning. I would love to experience that kind of an event.

Results from the WORLD CUP...

1st 1506 GTP- #15- Ch. Parker's Abigail P. - Ch. Lofton's Jeremiah L. & Webb's Hopper, Parker & Davis, Shelbyville, TX / Ruston, LA

2nd 1184 GTP- #6 Peyton's Ruby - Top Notch CJ & Peyton's Monkey, Hunter & Peyton Joiner, Ponchatoula, LA

3rd 1132 GTP- #1 Laurie's Jackie - Firehouse's Marvelous & Norris' Jackie, Ronnie Norris, Wilmington, NC

4th 1124 GTP- #116 Keel's Hooker - Jason's Rampage & T.B's Hot Pants, South Georgia PoBoys/Oak Creek Kennels, Baxely, GA

5th 1095 GTP- #41 McMillan's Baby Girl - McMillan's HiLo & Eubanks Fat Gal, Ronnie McMillan, Crystal Springs, MS

6th 1086 GTP- #60 McMillan's Black Rose - McMillan's J.R. Bates & Hogue's Dixie, Ronnie McMillan, Crystal Springs, MS

7th 1004 GTP- #65 McMillan's Upper Cup - McMillan's J.R. Bates & Hogue's Dixie, Ronnie McMillan, Crystal Springs, MS

8th 985 GTP #21 P & D's Zip - Ch. Lakehill's Chili & Frazier Bros. Ruth, Parker & Davis, Shelbyville, TX / Ruston, LA

9th 954 GTP #191 Jackie's Rock - J's Ten Top & Jackie's Cheyenne, Strictly Mafia, Kiln, MS

10th 942 GTP #502 Moody's Missy- John & John's Lil Bit, South Georgia PoBoys/Oak Creek Kennels, Baxely, GA

11th 942 GTP #611 DM John - DM John & Byrd's Tootsie, Danny Morris (DM Kennels), Hunter, AR

12th 900 GTP #7 Ch. P & D's Skid Row - Clear Cut Kidd Rock & Frazier Bros. Ruth, Parker & Davis, Shelbyville, TX / Ruston, LA

13th 874 GTP #75 Whiskey Creek Rebate - Whiskey Creek Talladega & CopperHeads Rachael, Whiskey Creek Kennel, Chase City, VA

14th 830 GTP #17 McMillan's Halo - McMillan's Hi Lo & Eubank's Fat Gal, Ronnie McMillan, Crystal Springs, MS

15th 814 GTP #9 Ch. Norris' Big Boy - Crisco's Newbern & Atkin's Penny, Ronnie Norris, Wilmington, NC

16th 801 GTP #20 Ch. McMillan's Big C - Ch. McMillan's Little D & Hart's Hannah, Ronnie McMillan, Crystal Springs, MS

17th 798 GTP #601 Ch. High Cotton Champagne - High Cotton Hercules & D&S Red Lady, High Cotton Kennels, Rocky Point, NC

18th 796 GTP #111 P & D's Zeniatta - Butler's Preacher & Bonner's Dee Dee, Parker & Davis, Shelbyville, TX / Ruston, LA

19th 796 GTP #66 Peyton's Goldmember - Superman & Twister, Hunter & Peyton Joiner, Ponchatoula, LA

20th 793 GTP #31 Lakehill's Millionaire - Little John G. & Loper's Ms. Brittney, Lakehill's Kennels, Pineville, LA



In Masters GTP hunts the association has the option of recognizing the top 20 instead of the top 10. All 20 of these hounds placed. In an HGA hunt all the categories are listed out but in GTP the categories are usually not listed.


Also, the only major difference between National HGA and Masters HGA in a fox pen is the National weights the Trailing category equal to the others while Masters gives Trailing half the weight of the other 3 categories.

What kind of hunt do we need to go to so we can run against big Eddie ? Skid is ready?

GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DATE HEATH BIG EDDIE PROBABLY WILL NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME HGA OR GTP. SKID IS THE MAN.

I will say this I see some pretty bold statements have been made on this post, & also I'm sure all dogs mentioned above were wore out at the end of the year for the world cup. I know for a fact Skid Row ran in a hunt 2 weeks pryor but the rules wouldn't have made a difference no how Skid did finish the hunt on his feet Eddie & his sister did not! Masters, GTP, National, National pen rules, are all the same when that happens.

Now I'm just a guy with some hounds that runs for pleasure and does the odd trial for fun but I can guarantee you that every single person with hounds would love to own the two hounds being discussed.

And I may be mistaken but I think Big Eddie placed at the All American with over 500 hounds and was the high score dog on the FOURTH day.

If you don't think that's impressive you need your head checked.

There is a hunt in two weeks at Joe Lewis Fox Pen in Lawrenceville,Va. The Virginia Crowd would like to invite Parker and Davis up to the hunt. There will be a fish fry Friday and cookout Saturday. Come on up and let us watch a fine hound run. If you want more details call Louis Callahan at (434) 955 8203. look forward to seeing everyone there.

And Ronnie cox went 1rst and 2nd speed n drive

A hunt at Joe's? That's not a hunt that's a hunt you'd be lucky to have 2 races a day. Parker/Davis go to hunts with running like the other 95% of hunters. If your the other 5% an dodge running than you go in 2 weeks.

Skidrow glad your man enough to put your name on here. But someone said name any hunt any date so we proposed one. If skidrow is the dog yall say he is bring him up here for us to see. I personally would like to see if the speed demon can put his head down and hunt and jump his own piece of game.

Not promoting Big Eddie but he has been from Canada to Georgia placing and winning. I've haven't heard of skidrow coming to a fox pen a getting his name called. So bring him on up to the hunt so we can see what a good hound he is on a fox.

THE SKID ROW DOG IS A NICE DOG & I'M SURE EDDIE IS TOO.SKID ROW MUST BE A FREAK OF NATURE.HE'S WINNING & PLACING IN EVERY KIND OF HUNT THEY PUT HIM IN.FROM 3HRS- 3DAYS.I'M SURE EDDIE IS A HELL OF A HOUND IN HIS OWN RESPECT

I have never been to Low Country at Manning, SC but I used to hear it was loaded with fox. Did they quit running fox over there?

I think Skid Row has placed in Shelbyville, TX; Grapevine, AR; Hope, AR; Enon, LA; Picayune, MS; and Manning, SC not to mention the nice finish at the World Cup in Swainsboro, GA. That is traveling pretty good but I guess he never went to a fox only fox pen which is kinda specific to the state of VA. Virtually every pen in the "West" has some gray fox and a lot of them have reds too.
That said, it would be nice to see what a LA/TX wolfhound could do in a VA fox pen...

And for all you hatters .

in Virginia we can only run foxes as our game commission has assigned. U.S. To so we train and trial on fox weather it be two hours or five so when it comes to hound of the year votes. Or pointes .
we would be glad to run a hunt in good ole Virginia for the hound of the year instead of playing in the masters rules for a real hound of the year as we in Virginia have been abused the last 2 of the four years having to play with of game for a real hoy and that's a fact not a statement we won't do it this year for sure we will make up all the 50 dog hunts we need to make sure a national hga dog gets what he deserving weather the leaderbord and you masters rules runners like it or not ......... Thank you for abbussing U.S. hga hunters for so long Robbie Davis whiskey creek kennels

The average All Age entry in the hunts where Skid Row placed was over 150 hounds which was a slightly higher average entry than the hunts where Big Eddie placed. They competed against roughly equal amounts of competition as far as numbers go.
As for the standings being skewed toward Masters and GTP hunts rather than National and HGA hunts, that is probably true at least when you look at just the hunts held in fox pens. Several of the Major National hunts that carry the most weight in HOY are outside hunts (National & Futurity) or alternate from inside to outside (USO & All American) so to really grab a lot of points from National HGA hunts you would have to do some field trialing in the wild while the Major Masters hunts are almost always held in a pen.

Here is a little something to think about: Lets have 2 HOY One for all the hunts inside the wire and one for all the hunts outside the wire. I think both should be recognised. I am sure that it will be a differant hound, but if the same hound would win both, that would be a complete hound.

GO AHEAD WHITEY TELL IT LIKE IT IS

I have read some of the post some pretty entertaining to say the least. It is a hard thing to pick the who better than who unless they go head to head and it sounds like they did last year at the World Cup.
I also think if you want to measure who got what all you have to do it look at Hound of the YEAR standings that says a mouthful and takes a lot of opinions out of it.
I also like looking at the Sire of the Year that kinda gives good indication what sire is producing winners that can compete in competition. Very good post it is nice to see something on the message board worth reading....and entertaining.

PS
Eddie and Skid both be nicer dogs if they were both solid white :):)
lmao

Be Good
Lenny