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    Re: Question for Hunters: Please Read

    No - I turn my hounds loose with Garmin and beep-beep collars on the outside hunts & only Garmin in the pen hunts.

    Jeff Brinchek

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    Bill, this is a good question.My theory of this is that we have enough people trying to kill this sport. Why does masters want to also? They will lose a lot of hunters , because this is the only way they have to locate and retrieve there hounds.You want stop someone trying to cheat. If they gone cheat they will find some other way.My theory would be if they get caught then ban them for 5 years from any master or national affiliated hunts.

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    Bill,
    I would hate to go back to the beep beep collars. My "catch up" time is 1/4 of what it was prior to getting an astro system. In my opinion the astro is a great help in a 3 day hunt. If I can catch my dogs say an hour sooner each day, that can make a huge difference by the time the hunt is over.

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    Not no but HECK NO.

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    Bill, many folks have substantial investments in Garmin Alpha systems! This was done to track hounds & it cuts down retrieval time!
    A cheater is going to cheat, & any organization that would even consider banning them is doing a disservice to all field trialers!
    Punish the CHEATER, not the vast majority of HONEST field trailers! BAN the CHEATER! Won't take but once or twice to straighten out the problem.
    And NO.... I would NOT attend a trial where they were not permitted!
    Several thousand dollars in an investment is not chicken feed, nor going down the drain for some dang CHEATER!!!

    ALLAN BISHOP
    (Jabber Jaw)

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    No. I have spent alot of time and $$$$ to get the equipment necessary to train my hounds and me to retrieve quickly. Although i could get them up without the garmin it would not be worth the aggravation IMO.

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    No, my hounds do not respond to truck horns or whistles. I don't have any beep beep collars now. GPS collars is how I get my hounds up.

    Thought??? if hounds are broke to a truck horn or whistle, why would the beep beep collars be needed or allowed either.


    Larry

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    Bill,
    Can you clarify if you were asking about GPS collars with solely GPS capabilities or GPS collars that have shocking and toning capabilities on them?

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    Brian Haas
    Bill,
    Can you clarify if you were asking about GPS collars with solely GPS capabilities or GPS collars that have shocking and toning capabilities on them?


    Good question. If the shocking and/or toning is the problem then do away with the toners and shockers. If all you are concerned with is toning and/or shocking then an astro system is no different than a beep beep collar and should not be in question.

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    Bill I have spent a lot of money and time training my hounds to the TT10 collars. To me its about getting my hounds up quicker and getting them ready for the next day sooner. I think cell phones used by judges working together on different sides in the pen padding scores on a hound have a greater chance of cheating then a collar ever would. I tone my hounds and they will come looking for me. They know its time to stop and get to the truck and get picked up. Last thing I want is to tone a hound and it go stand at a judges truck waiting to be picked up, don't know how this would help.

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    No , I dont cast my hounds anywhere with out garmins on them

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    We run hounds in our pen with shock collars on. A lot of it was to protect our game. However we have watched this many times.On any type of situation where we have dogs pile up, we tone one dog, the others hear it and guess what , they all leave. Here is the unfortunate part. Some leave and go back hunting and others come straight to the porch at the house, no matter how far away the house is from them, they come to it.This would be terrible if a man in the yard is watching his hound on garmin from half way across a pen, a bay occurs, a judge is there getting dogs off, but guess what, Garmin doesn't show that. So owner tones dog and all surrounding hounds hear it, NO hunter has the right to interfere with my hound during competition. This isn't training time, this is competition.Even if we are all the most honest hunters in the world, nobody said what you are doing is malicious its just not right.
    Keep the training devices out of the competition area.
    We have ours trained by name, if you holler their name I promise they will do back flips to get to you. As Bill said, do the work before, not during.
    I too have spent a tremendous amount of money and do not want anyone affecting my hounds during competition.
    You don't have to run TT-10's to run Garmins. Sorry you all bought these.We use 50's with Tritronics shock system when training

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    Sure!Quality of the hounds I was feeding is a bigger issue than type of collar around their neck

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    Outside the wire I would not attend a hunt with this rule. It cuts my gas cost in half and i can slow traffic down if I see they are trying to cross main rd. Inside the wire i would not care I run beep collars anyway bc of interference!!

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    May god bless the feild trail world

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    i still compete that way right now. not gonna give up my beep beeps and go to a garmin. i know some are gonna say no way but i believe i can catch my hounds just about as fast as anyone with a garmin. its all in how to train your hounds to handle. folks have been training their hounds with shock and beep long before garmin had it. i miss my old hounds who would come to the beep of my truck horn but most of them i have now know to come when i call them by name.