We have Hamer's Zero at our kennel. McDaniels Hot Rod x Bradfordsprings BG. Hot Rod is straight off of clown and BG is Smokey G on top, goes back to clown on bottom. Zero has placed in several 3 day hunts with the last day being his best day. He has also placed in several money hunts. I have never seen him burn a pad or limp. We have one litter on the dirt that are tough as nails & can roll, if we run them tonight they are bouncing off the fence tomorrow. Also got two more in the brooder. If you have any questions give me or my partner a call. Josh 843 992 5697 or Derek 843 325 6465.