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Forgot to add the young strokin lady the gyp to the pups..she is off j&d justice who is off pinedale clown b. And a senator sam gyp..so those two pups are bred right..we had one litter this is the second..both litters were of 5..the first was exceptional n these look to be the same...but I lef one dog out got a july pup also off young strokin jr n tuff runnin lighting...jr is off ch.houges sam x full cry'n scream n lightin.. senator sam top n bottom...125 for her..she's only been ran 3 times always goes with dogs not sure how much she really knows yet..I dnt normally strt my pups till 8 or 9 months