Also not to hurt no ones feeling but a lot of people sometimes don't like a lot of judges because it's easier to find a fault in a dog when 30 Judges are watching him than ur 6 or 8....u can't tell me 8 or 10 judges is better than 30 I don't care how good them 5 or 6 work in the field!!!!! Have u ever tried to deer hunt in 2000 acres if so bet u didn't kill many same thing at a fox hunt bet u don't get many crossings...