just looking for some feed back on using hellums breed to deer hunt with and what breed would be the best thanks for any info and happy hunting

Thats a loaded question, and will get a lot of replies! I have Hellums Breeding.... All my hounds & the hounds I have sold, off my Sattelite Hellums stud ( Popeye Hellums II ) have nothing but great things in the deer woods.

Good luck

www.isabelacreskennel.com

The ones I've had were "deer heathens"! and could run day after day after day, and never get tired!
Sold some to a couple of guys & they said they were the best they ever owned!
Don't think you'd regret using them! and they have "brains" too!

ALLAN BISHOP
(JABBER JAW)

PS: Twin Pine kennels....use your full name...per the rules to post!! Now you know! Thanks!!

I own Badloc Hellums and the pups can drive a deer!! Make sure u have a full tank of gas and dont have anywhere to go!! I have Hellums Breeding.... All my life. Hounds & the hounds I have sold, off my Badloc Hellums stud have nothing but great things in the deer woods, an in the pen.

Always have puppy on the ground and have some AA dog some time!!

Great deer hunting dogs they just don't know when to stop,if you are looking for some in NC area call Patrick Jacobs 252-340-5544

If you like to look hounds all night there great.Long winded and hard headed.

A hunting buddy of mine has a whole pack of hellums bred dogs. They will flat out run one too. I'd invest in some shock collars and train them to stop at a crossing though as they will run him out of the county before they think of stopping. They are definitely "deer heathens"

MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID HAS TO DO WITH THE I.Q. OF THE HANDLER. SOME OF US DONT HAVE THIS PROBLEM YOU REFER TO.

P. JACOBS
252-340-5544

I guess that I am hardheaded and longwinded,well yes at times I can be but I know that I talk from experience and not out of my azz!!!I also know that when it gets dark my hounds are loaded and mind me.Dont get upset and insult me if you have a kennel full of hellums breeding for deerhunting!Just an opinion like everyone elses on this thread.Hardheaded referring to dont know when to quit.I guess thats what you want inside the wire but deerhunting is a different story.It never fails on this board someone trying to insult someone.

By the way congrats on your duel champion Mr.Jacobs,I can see why I hit a nerve now.

JAMES, YOU DIDNT HIT A NERVE I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND MY COMMENT WAS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU (I.Q. COMMENT). JUST REMENBER NOT ALL WHITE DOGS ACT LIKE RETARDS THERE ARE A PLENTY HERE IN E.C. THAT WILL DO AS THERE TOLD.

P. JACOBS
252-340-5544

Read the the very first post on this page!!! It says to use your full name!! Please either comply with that or the post will be deleted.
Thanks

ALLAN BISHOP
(JABBER JAW)

PATRICK L. JACOBS
129 BRICKHOUSE LN
ELIZ. CITY, NC 27909
252-340-5544

SORRY JABBER JAW
HOPE THIS HELPS

Mr.Bishop, how is it you've got to be pulled out some peoples throat when they don't put a full name up hear like p.jacobs did along with his ph.# but somebody can come up hear with say " joe"-"cialis dad" and thats not a problem for you? is it because "you" know them and that's good enough?any how was just wondering. have a good day.

Mr Potter,
First I was not down Patrick's throat! And I think he realizes this, he just was not totally aware of the name requirement. There are others that are learning about name usage as well!
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(JABBER JAW)

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i have a couple satilites , the only problem is you better not want to go home early . tough and plenty of hours . these are hellums bread top and bottom .

may be allright if you dont want to run him very fast

They are tough in a way in the deer woods that few other lines shown me. You better train them to the tone button in a none hunting situation early on. You best turn loose early I have one here that chews through all brands of wire and goes through electric wire chews or climbs out.Several people owned but got fed up with his acts of Houdini He will run for days but will come home no matter how far he goes. I got him from a fellow as he had destroyed his pens escaping. I had a special cage built out of live stock panels that cant be chewed through . i am 58 cant run like i use too have youngsters that are fast helps if they are not tone broke . The invention of the ALPHA SHOCK TONE TRACK IN ONE HELPS. The DRIVE TRACK is like a huge GPS that shows roads fields logging roads and has birds eyes helps. You can't own Hellums on a small hunting club so you better have cooperative adjoing hunt clubs or assess to go catch them. Yeah they are high Octane can he hard long days but when you take off 2 weeks to hunt every day the other strains just cant take it. I have had hounds for almost 50 years and they proven to me they are beyond tough almost like they were let out hell. The name HELLUMS fits their desire freak nature.I wouldnt trade my lunatic Houdini for nothing. We got six 6 Month old Hellums pups that can already track trial and jump a deer and run him to the next county and will run all day and you got get them out the woods late in the day. No other line has shown me this I am very hard to please and wont own or breed to a soft dog that is burnt out in 4 0r 5 hours of hard running. Hellums are hard to find as few people like white dogs but they show up better at night crossing a road less likely to get ran over.I hope people dont over look this line. Dogs often that are trained to run in pens sometimes struggle in ranging out to find game and trailing when game is scarce in the wild. Hellums are tough enough that the desire to hunt is there that will put game on its feet somewhere. They are like a Timex watch they can take a lick and keep on ticking. These dogs are natural borne anabolic dont need any help.

I owned some off of white cat Hellums and they were deer machines, and no matter how long or far they would go they would be back every night, hunting machines that would find game , I bred them to beagles, then to my beagle/gsp and they have speed, nose hunt and are good for small tracks,the gsp makes them easy to handle, average height is 20”, they have chop and squealing mouth’s. This formula works well for me.