FYI: If this happens in Virginia - Retrieve your dog -without your firearm and without a vehicle. If you are denied that right - do not argue w/ the landowner - simply call the police or conservation police - they can escort you. Remember -Retrieving is not searching and looking for! Retrieving is recovering what you know is there. If your dogs are harmed in anyway- Do not take the advice that was posted about handling it yourself. THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO - IT'S A TRAP!!!! Don't be stupid, the law is on your side, keep that way. The VaHDA deals with this a lot and we normally win every case. Here lately we have really put it to a few hound haters. If you are in Va and you have a problem with the law officers doing their job -Call the VaHDA, we will push some buttons. We have been handing out a "Know The Law / Code of Ethics" card. Everyone should have this - when the law enforcement says they can't do anything - show them the card - it tells them what the law is and the penalties involved. Remember- you play by the rules and the rules will defend you. You violate the rules and you will become their poster child and you smear the reputation of law abiding hound hunters. We make a much bigger statement when we drag these jerks in court and allow the press and HSUS and PETA to do their job. Just ask Michale Vick.

WE HAD ONE SHOT IN OUR CLUB A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND NOTHING BECAUSE THE GAME SAID IT WAS NOT HIS TO DEAL WITH IT WAS THE SHERRIFS DEPT. AND THEY CAME OUT AND TOOK PICS AND TOOK A REPORT AND SAID THEY DIDNT HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF.

Rod I heard through unknown sorce. That Michael might have a dog now that can tree real live wild coon's. He's now started his tour across the state showing everyone.
Good luck Michael.

My friends dog was shot off of firetower rd near the waste treatment plant. Matter of fact it was rite behind Allen Springs trailor park tracked to him just off the shooting lane at a tree stand. This is the 2nd time some of my friends dogs got shot. Not in the same place. First time it was off of Gurganus rd we call the game worden and the sheriff they told us they could not do anything. We went and got the dog off the mans property after the sheriff and warden left, but they told us that if we set foot on the mans property they would arrest us for trespassing so just letting u know if u want some help call ur buddies.Because u wont get no help from them.

Mark,

Sure hate to hear about your troubles. I commend you on trying to do things the right way. Most clubs around here that have tried to handle things thier selves by taking the law in thier own hands aren't around anymore. If you have a problem with dogs constantly getting on someones property, that can't be ignored and needs to be addressed. Taking no action is one of things that caused International Paper to shut down dog hunting on leases here in South Carolina. I cast 7 walkers loose every saturday morning, so I am well aware it is pretty much impossible to keep all of them from staying on our lease without getting 1 or 2 out of pocket.....even though we try our best.

Unfortunately, there are some places that deer just go and those places get loaded up with dogs by mid-day. These places usually belong to some well-to-do still hunter. I know of several clubs that have actually put up a 4ft. fence along the property lines of adjacent problem areas to greatly reduce dog infiltration. A club across the river from us was about to lose everything and decided to run a fence along that particular property line. It saved them, to say the least. I know a guy that hunts on the still hunting club that borders the fence, and he stated that they went from having 20 or more dogs on thier property every saturday to 1 or 2 a month. They are content with that and have no problems with the dog club anymore.

Now, this still hunting club wasn't shooting their dogs that I'm aware of.......but there was a problem and it was handled to everyone's benefit. Just something I thought I would throw out there. Good luck, man.

Jason

Thanks Jason for the input. Our hunt club has mostly families in it from the area and we are trying to do what is right and teach our kids right from wrong.This guy we are dealing with is very arrogant and wealthy. I hope we have him soon when the results are back!! Thanks Mark