The Raptus - The Rapture Of The Church.



The Rapture 0f the Church has been known of for centuries as "The Raptus."


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"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also". John 14:3.

The rapture of the church has been one of the most discussed and misunderstood subjects in the Bible, its place in yet unfulfilled bible prophecy. Eg. Is it pre, mid, post tribulation or just a wishful fable? Share your thoughts with fellow Christians on this controversial but very real biblical subject.


 


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A M

ukr@paris.com

IP: 64.110.236.105

Nov 4, 06 - 8:15 PM
Rapture

HE may come in a few seconds from now!
Bob Haughey.


IP: 203.206.4.59

Nov 4th, 2006 - 8:39 PM
Re: Rapture

Nope! Well maybe a few extra.
Angel


IP: 76.181.17.243

Jan 8th, 2007 - 1:25 AM
Re: Rapture

Good Day to You!

Praises by Unto Our Holy Father Amen
Topic rapture is a Big issue my dear one.

Many people today do not understand that the word rapture is not in the Bible.

All will be caught up to be with the Creator ..."the Creator of ALL Creations.

Some may want to keep in my mind that Satan will make war on the Christains during the Tribulation Period.

The first half of the 7 years.

I and My Creator is watching how many will read the Book of revelation and understand it through the Holy Spirit.

This is the way to Know the truth.
Without the Holy Spirit Revealing this it will never be understood.

The Book of Revelation is full of parables and symbols that some may find it most difficult to understand.

You and all else who needs understanding let them seek wisdom and knowledge.

Remember this dear one...You are helping ones to come to christ and giving them hope.

Bless You in be ever so careful of Satan's devices.

He is destroying many upon many and more to come before God the Father which is in Heaven comes for his church one day when all has been fulfilled.

Everyones time is Always.

A appointed time will come for each and everyone.

If one will serve God
each and everyday as their last
will know that you are well with God.
A.M.


IP: 206.163.230.200

Jan 8th, 2007 - 9:46 AM
Re: Rapture

I believe HE MUST Rapture His Church away. Things are just too crazy in this world.
Bob Haughey.

Hi Angel.

IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 8th, 2007 - 10:17 AM
Re: Rapture

Hi Angel.
I know that the word "Rapture" is not in the Bible, it actually comes from the Latin word "Raptus". It is interesting though one of the meanings given to the word in my little Macquarie Dictionary is quote "The carrying of a person to another place or sphere of existence." I guess this is how Christians in the middle ages starting calling the catching away as described by Paul so beautifully in 1Thess 4. The book of Revelation is indeed a very symbolically written book which has intrigued me from the day I became a Christian reading it many times but it is only one of sixty six books that make up the Bible which from the beginning to the end is a Jesus book. Our heavenly Father all the way through the Old Testament is telling the nation of Israel that the messiah is coming just as He is telling the world today in the Gospels, Jesus is coming. Jesus Himself tells us in John 14:3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." He is coming at a day unknown to gather us together to Himself and take his Church out of this mess of a world.

Thank you for your thoughts.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.17.243

Jan 8th, 2007 - 10:52 AM
Re: Rapture

It is wonderful to see you are studing to help others.
The one BIG thing in churches today and teachers is that...they teach a easy way out.

That bothers me a great deal especially for new comers to Jesus Christ.

It has taken many many years to get to this Point in my life. Me and My husband has been the Evangelistic Movement for many years. Helping those in need.

I bring Up the word rapture because / it is correct what you stated.

But in reference to the Bible the word is found no wheres...and with the teachings of today people are looking for a way out sooner then what God has Planned for them.

Some think that they will not suffer for Christ name sake. Think again I say!

1). Satan is going to make war against Gods Chosen ones.

That is a Major Factor in the Book of revelation.

The word Rapture = caught Up

It is the books out on the Market that are deceptive to new believers or older believers.

Ones that has no idea that alot of these Publishers has not the faintest idea what it truly is about.

Because alot of them it out for their Own gain...

But teach Gods children they will not go through anything before he ( Jesus Christ )
takes his children home one day is very upsetting.

Many times through the years people got on kicks in right a book stole a persons thoughts where they sold everything because they thought this is the time that Jesus Christ is coming.

What happens they loose everything and some their salvation because of deceptions.

There is alot to be learned....and understand.
But only through the Holy Spirit can one know.

Being saved and Baptized in the Holy Spirit....fasting and Praying.

I Pray many many Great things for you and all the work you have put into things will turn to be One Awesome Blessing unto You

Time to move on .....thank you for this opportunity to respond to you....
I say to God and I pray all good things will come to surface as you travel on your road to many adventures.

Protect you all your days with Gods Holy Angels watching over you each an everyday. Amen
Angel


IP: 76.181.17.243

Jan 8th, 2007 - 10:59 AM
Re: Rapture

Excuse any mis-spellings Please ...on my Prior note....thank you.
Bob Haughey.

Hi Angel.

IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 8th, 2007 - 11:32 AM
Re: Rapture

Hi again Angel.
Firstly thank you for your kind words and prayer, something we all need. I also would like to especially ask the Lord to bless you and your husband in the ministry He has entrusted to you. Though we will not have nor understand all the answers while on this fallen earth but there is a day coming when we will see our King as He truly is face to face, I do not have all the answers to the many questions I could ask but on that day I will no longer need to ask any.

Our heavenly Father bless you both mightily in the name of Jesus.
Thanks again for your thoughts on the subject, it is one dear to my heart.
God Bless.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.17.243

Jan 8th, 2007 - 12:09 PM
Re: Rapture

Closing Note:

I applaud you for the Love of God you have in your heart in life.

I know within me it has taken you alot of time to do all the work and information you have done.

More then what people realizes.....to do any research on topics as such it takes amense of time.

Bless You Brother in Christ ...I pray that the paths that you travel will be so enlighting and BLessed.

Prayers is a needful thing ~ Prayer warriors is in great need today. I love prayer all through the day ...One can be doing 2 things at once.

Awesome to have a relationship with Our father that knows our every thought even before we ask.

My adventures in life will be battles but I will come out victorious as you and many Gods children.

The wedding feast is something I am looking forward too. ( no italian food )

Remember there is so many do not like this topic because some do not know how to communicate without critisim.

But as you have displayed you are truly a Blessed Christain and has been a pleasure to know that Gods Children are everywhere.

Now my adventures to another road ...
BLess You Dear One
Bob Haughey.

Hi Angel.

IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 8th, 2007 - 12:48 PM
Re: Rapture

Hi again Angel.
I had to laugh at the no Italian food comment , I like some Italian and I bet many Italian brothers and sisters will also expect to see some on the menu. Just to see and be with Jesus will be food enough for me though I wont mind if He throws in a good old Australian BBQ, oh, and a new set of teeth so I can enjoy a good T bone. I just know it will be a glorious day regardless of when He choses to come for us all. The Blessed Hope.
See you then.
God Bless You Both.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.4.113

Jan 9th, 2007 - 6:08 AM
Rapture~Thought for today

* Bless Your Day today *

For a new Journey is on it's way!

and new food for heavens wedding feast one day.

You can eat all you want for one Price with all our teeth..."Food will be outta of this World"

( Paid in Full ) through our Lord Jesus Christ

Have a Beautiful & Blessed Day
in
Our Lord Jesus Christ
Amen
a.m.


IP: 206.163.230.200

Jan 9th, 2007 - 11:07 AM
Re: Rapture

Maybe Christ Jesus will take us away today in the twinkling of an eye(Rapture).
Bob Haughey.


IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 9th, 2007 - 11:19 AM
Re: Rapture

Why just maybe, when He dose we sure will know.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.4.113

Jan 9th, 2007 - 1:20 PM
Re: Rapture~Amen Brother

Oh "no doubt" Brother in Christ
No maybe about it ...if one is a servant of God it will be no maybe and no secret....we Our Lord and Savior comes for his Bride in reference to ( church )

Everyone will know without a question.

Blessings Always just peaking in...
*Angel*
Bob Haughey.

www.atestimony.com/caught_away.htm

IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 9th, 2007 - 1:32 PM
Re: Rapture

Hi again Angel.
Amen of Amens to that one sister.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.4.113

Jan 9th, 2007 - 1:50 PM
Hello Bob a Little Note to You

Dear Bob;

I wanted to take out this time to say to you
I really commend you with all the hard work and information you have on your website.

And other wonderful related links to the topic of Jesus Christ.

You can really tell your whole heart and soul is filled with the Holy Spirit and Love.

The identity of a Christain that is to be treasured.
your work you have applied is outstanding ...if someone could not know or learn about God ..."I just do not know what it would take"

Amazing how much information that is avaliable to those who would like to be introduced to Our Lord in Savior. I commend ALL who put so much into the Lords work and helping those.

Have a BLessed Day
Angel*
Angel


IP: 76.181.4.113

Jan 10th, 2007 - 11:49 AM
Please Pray for me

Hello I am emailing you because I trust in your prayers. There has been some personal issues that has came up and we so badly in need of Prayer!

There is nothing to Big for Our God that we serve..../to have Gods People come together it makes a stronger bond in prayer to see miracles be manifested.

Thank You so Much so Much
Angel
Bob Haughey.

www.atestimony.com/caught_away.htm

IP: 203.206.120.30

Jan 10th, 2007 - 2:58 PM
Re: Prayer.

Hi Angel.
Praying one for another or for each other is a very Biblical truth as Paul states "Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints." The verse of course from Ephesians 6 but he first tells us to put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Many times we look for our armour after the attack has taken place and wonder why we have problems of which I could be considered one of the worst offenders.

The past year, 2006, I would wipe of the calendar if I could. In the January my wife suffered a stroke and is now confined between a wheel chair and bed, I had to close our business as a result finding running a motel and being a fulltime carer physically impossible, from living a live of reasonable comfort to one of watching our bank account slowly disappear. I watched my father inlaw whom I loved suffer and slowly die a painful death to cancer now my mother inlaw is going through that deep grieving where she also wants to die and is in hospital quite ill as a result plus there were a number of other events where I found myself having to stop asking "Why God why". I just have to trust that our heavenly Father knows where we are and our situation, every detail and some of the things we pray for seem to fall on deaf ears but I know he hears us and will answer our prayers but not always the way we would like to see them answered. What was it Job said, "Though He slay me yet shall I trust Him." Every time Job asked a question of God, God answered with a question till Job came to understand our God is sovereign only when Job prayed for his three friends if they could truly be called friends did God restore Job's household.

So yes I will pray for and with you that what ever the needs are that you are facing at the moment that our sovereign God will meet those needs according to His will and perpose. Sailors will tell you that if you spend long enough at sea you are bound to have to ride out a few storms from time to time as it is with life but through those storms the one that was tested in every way we can be is with us no mater what we face, Jesus will never leave us nor forsake us.
So take heart and trust in that beautiful name.
The Lord bless and keep you.
Bob.
Angel


IP: 76.181.22.21

Jan 12th, 2007 - 12:37 PM
Re: Rapture and Prayer ~ Love of God Amen

*~* Praises unto Our Father *~*


Thank You so much for your Prayers and sharing the experiences you have had to face.

Thank God in the Heavens that we do not walk alone.
We will feel alone many times...because of the things we face each and everyday.

It is surely a test of ones Will and Faith.
Faith is something that is most powerful gift to have to me.

It covers alot of ground for sure....walk by faith each and everyday. This is a hard thing to do being only human...but understanding all at the same time it is in Gods Will in Trusting him that alone is the only one that bring us out ontop.

Does not matter how big or small / "it can be trying and that is something I have been experiencing.

Without God in our Lives in Heart "what is there"?
Nothing....not a thing at all.

No hope for anything ( because to really understand the word Hope is understanding what God has Planned for us + Faith ) it all connects together.

We as Christains have our everyday Battles but much more then a unbeliever does because we deal with 2 different issues all at the same time.

But the unbeliever has their problems because the Biggest Number One Issue without God one has not a thing or Hope....

But I Praise God...that there is Hope for all who does Believe in one way or another because there is a open door of Eternal Life that awaits them.

If one would just surrender all to him (to Our Lord and Saviour ) there will be a uttermost peace of mind in heart that we do NOT walk alone but with God in reside with him in the Heavenly Places with Our Lord in Savior.

( Alot of people believes they have to go to church to get saved ...it is great if one would go to church in get saved to have the pastor or the elders comfort in minister to them to help them on get started on their new walk with Our Lord in Savior...the body of chirst is one anothers strength and we all need that each and everyday.

If one did not have that opportunity to make it to church they can get saved right where they are at.

By just asking God into their hearts and forgiveness of their sins or trepasses....then diffently follow up with other believers or a dedicated Holy Spirit filled Pastor of a church...if all possible.

but what they need to realize Our Father is Everywhere ~ church is a place of coming together to worship and gain strength in fellowship.

Greater strength one has when all come together ....because we all represent the body of Our Lord and Savior.

( Prayer is the Most Important weapon against the enemy or need a answer to Our Prayer for all issues.)

I Pray great things for you Bob you have a heart and Love in care that will touch so many lives that you come across...with even all the battles you face on a everyday basis.

I myself is faced with many terrible health issues that is catching up with me....and I have now no estimated time to go by when it is finished.

My Goal no matter what...if I can touch one life a day by phone or email with love and compassion in give hope to the hopeless or helpless or a prayer or love and so on it is worth living until my Father takes me home.

My battles is very great ....so great it makes me stronger in Spirit as well because I know I am being tested as well as knowing all at the same time my day will come to be with My father in heaven eternally.

Bless You Always and forever and your prayers will always be so well appreciated.

Prayers and many Hugs for being You and the Love you show unto others.

With the Upmost Kindest Regards;
Angel~ child of the King my Lord in Savior


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