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Nick Huggins

nickhuggins@hotmail.com 36

IP: 81.137.213.41

Jul 5, 07 - 11:36 AM
Yag laser surgery for PDS

Hello and it's good to find this web site.

I have recently been diagnosed as having PDS and after a bad reaction to the first eye drops the Doctor tried me on, the consultant suggested I have Yag laser peripheral (iridotomies?) surgery. I just wondered if anyone here has had this surgery and if so, what their experiences were? I also wondered if anyone had suffered any bluriness of vision (as I'm told that will happen for a while), what it was like and how long it lasted for and how bad it was?

Just to give you a bit of health background information - I was born almost 2 months premature and in my right eye (were my pressure is worse), my iris didn't join up, so you could see a strip of white! I'm very allergic to certain substances like spices, tress and grass and derivatives of. I'm very intolerant of wheat and gluten, I'm a photographer and do tend to strain and 'work' my eyes more than most. Hope this extra information helps someone!

Thank you in advance if anyone can help.

Cheers

Nick
Tracy

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IP: 90.240.39.38

Jul 5th, 2007 - 11:35 PM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Hi Nick, welcome to the site.

I had trabeculoplasty on my right eye three years ago. I'm not sure if it's exactly the same treatment as you've had suggested to you, but I'll explain what happened during my treatment.

Firstly, I was given drops in my eye. After a time to let the drops work, (can't remember now exactly how long, sorry, but it was over half an hour, I think), I had to sit in front of the slit lamp, as if I was having the usual eye exam. The laser was then zapped into my eye 45 times around the bottom of the iris. Sounds a lot of times, but it was painless, although you can actually feel the 'zap' as each beam hits the eye, more of a tiny 'push' really. The operation took approximately 10 mins, in total.
I then had to sit for a while in the waiting room to make sure there were no adverse effects (felt very self-conscious, as I knew my eyes were red, and I couldn't see further than the end of my nose because of the drops/treatment/lack of glasses!).
I had the op mid-afternoon, on a bright sunny day in August, and the light outside was excruciating after the laser, so I would STRONGLY advise taking a bloomin' good pair of tight-fitting wrap-around sunglasses to wear after the treatment! Better still, ski goggles! You won't be able to drive for a couple of days, so make sure you have transport available to get you home.
For a couple of days after having the laser, my eye was red, sore and felt gritty, and I constantly wore sunglasses, even around the house at night, as I was sensitive to electric lighting as well. There was blurriness, too... being a worrier, I thought the treatment had ruined my eye for good, but the blurring went after a few days. The IOP's increased, too, but this went back down once the eye started to heal. After the first few days, I could tell the difference. I haven't really explained it very coherently, but if I had to have the treatment again, I would, as I certainly felt the benefit afterwards.

(I come up in a rash if I walk through long grass or wheat fields, and gardening can cause rashes up my arms. Paprika seems to make my tongue swell.)

PS Sorry to be a pedant... did you mean trees? I have this awful vision of you being chased by long hair!
Nick Huggins

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IP: 81.137.213.41

Jul 6th, 2007 - 9:52 AM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Hello Tracey,

Thank you for your welcome and more importantly, thank you for your feedback and information. I don't know if the laser treatment would be the same but you have reassured me about the treatment and after affects. Thanks, I do appreciate it.

Yes I did mean trees - why did you think I might have meant hares? Oh my gosh, have you been smoking the green stuff too! Talking of which, I heard on 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' of all shows, that smoking hash is supossed to be could at relieving pressure on the nerve ar the back of the eye, due to the chemicals THC found in hash. I wonder if there is any medical proof to back this up? Sorry, went off on a tengent there!

I have also suffered from seeing black 'patches' - I wonder if this is related to PDS?

Many thanks Tracey and I hope you stay away from praprika and grass! We sound as if we suffer from similar ailments - not a good thing to have in common!!!

Nick
Dave


IP: 193.62.251.16

Jul 6th, 2007 - 10:33 AM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Ah, something I can help with.

Cannabis does indeed reduce IOP. But by comparatively small amount and this effect also drops off quite fairly quickly (we become adapted to the THC). THC does have some worthwhile ocular effect, reducing risk of cataracts for example. But management of glaucoma isn't one of them.

As for the black patches, these sound like they might be "floaters" (small dark lines, dots, webs that float about in your vision more noticeable on a light background). If this sounds about right, these are small degenerations in the vitreous (the jelly inside the eye). They are benign and common (more so in myopes (short-sighted people) and this is why many people with PDS have them. Any change in them should be investigated as it can be a symptom of retinal changes.

Hope this is of interest.
Nick Huggins

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IP: 81.137.213.41

Jul 6th, 2007 - 11:06 AM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Thank you Dave on all these counts - very informative, educational and interesting. Not that I smoke cannabis or consume it in other forms but I have in the past and wondered whether to see if it helped.

Thanks again for your help.

Nick
Tracy

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IP: 84.71.172.122

Jul 6th, 2007 - 2:50 PM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

You're welcome Nick.
There's an awful lot of pressure to 'go green' these days! Perhaps we could say it would be (temporarily) good for the o-zonule layer, perhaps?
(I like Never Mind the Buzzcocks!)
Nick Huggins

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IP: 81.137.213.41

Jul 6th, 2007 - 6:32 PM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Ha-ha-ha, very funny, I like that! Well, I do care for the environment after all!

It was ironic that a relief for glaucoma should be discussed on Nevermind (I like the show too!).

The consultant ophthalmic surgeon phoned me up today (we're not friends just yet though!) to discuss my concerns and I'm going to go ahead with Yag laser surgery in one eye at a time! Not that my sight is anymore important than anyone else's but as a photographer, my living depends on sharp sight and there is a 1 in 1000 chance of loosing sight, hence I asked him if this is possible to do one at a time, so I said i wanted to go ahead. I'm really pleased I've taken a brave positive step forward.

How are your eyes now? Do you have a clean bill of health?

Sorry I kept putting an e in your name earlier!

Nick
Tracy

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IP: 84.71.55.203

Jul 6th, 2007 - 7:32 PM
Re: Yag laser surgery for PDS

Now you're talking about 'e's... people will worry!
Seriously though, don't worry about the spelling - I've spent most of my life adding "without an e" when giving my name, so I'm used to it.
My eyes aren't too bad, thanks. I had an eye exam on Tuesday and the pressures had increased to 20 in my left eye and 21 in my right, but I haven't used any eye drops for the past 18 months, so I suppose it was to be expected. They're going to see if they rise any more in the next 6 months, rather than just stick me back on the eyedrops. I have an appointment at the opticians tomorrow, so I'm considering contact lenses for the first time.
I was offered laser treatment in both eyes, but decided to have them done one at a time, as you have done. You may find that for some reason, the IOP in the eye NOT treated will lessen too. That's what happened to mine, anyway.
Best of luck when you have the treatment, don't forget the sunglasses and chauffeur home! Have you been given a date yet? Let us know how you get on!
Tracy


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